XML FeedsCity Council 2/09/10: agenda
PRELIMINARY MATTERS
1. Call to order
2. Roll call
3. Pledge of allegiance to the flag
4. Proclamations/presentations/recognitions
5. Public comments concerning agenda items
SECTION I: PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. AN ORDINANCE ENACTING A CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE CITY OF HAMTRAMCK, REVISING, AMENDING, RESTATING, CODIFYING AND COMPILING CERTAIN EXISTING GENERAL ORDINANCES OF THE POLITICAL SUBDIVISION DEALING WITH SUBJECTS EMBRACED IN SUCH CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY. The ordinance adopts the new codified book of ordinances.
Follow up:
SECTION II: UNFINISHED BUSINESS - Ordinances scheduled for second reading and ordinances or resolutions previously postponed.
1. AN ORDINANCE ENACTING A CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE CITY OF HAMTRAMCK, REVISING, AMENDING, RESTATING, CODIFYING AND COMPILING CERTAIN EXISTING GENERAL ORDINANCES OF THE POLITICAL SUBDIVISION DEALING WITH SUBJECTS EMBRACED IN SUCH CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY. (See Public Hearings Item #1)
SECTION III: CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
The following items will be adopted on a single motion without discussion unless a councilmember requests separate consideration.
1. City council meeting minutes-
a. Regular Meeting – January 26, 2010
2. Board and Commission minutes-
a. Historical Commission – October 28, 2009
3. Fund warrant list and payroll.
4. Correspondence
a. Letter from Steve Shaya resigning from the Recycling Commission.
5. RESOLUTION APPROVING NEIGHBORHOOD ENTERPRISE ZONE PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT CERTIFICATES FOR SPECIFIC PROPERTIES IN THE GRAND HAVEN DYAR NEIGHBORHOOD ENTERPRISE ZONE. Approval of certificates for rehabilitated properties located at 11791 Dequindre, 11356 Dyar, 11793 Dyar and 11738 Dyar which are a part of the Grand Haven/Dyar R-31 project. Placed on the agenda by City Clerk Norris.
SECTION IV: NEW BUSINESS - Ordinance introductions and resolutions for initial consideration.
1. RESOLUTION TERMINATING THE CONTRACT WITH INDEPENDENT SERVICES GROUP FOR SNOW REMOVAL AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT WITH THE 2ND LOWEST QUALIFIED BIDDER. Placed on the agenda by City Manager Cooper.
APPOINTMENTS TO THE RECYCLING COMMISSION (2 Vacancies)
2. RESOLUTION APPOINTING HEATHERLEY HOWARD TO THE HAMTRAMCK RECYCLING COMMISSION. This is a council appointment for a term ending 12-1-11. Placed on the agenda by Councilmember Gordon.
3. RESOLUTION APPOINTING GREG MILLER TO THE HAMTRAMCK RECYCLING COMMISSION. This is a council appointment for a term ending 12-1-11. Placed on the agenda by Councilmember Stackpoole.
APPOINTMENTS TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS (4 Vacancies)
4. RESOLUTION APPOINTING STEVEN CHERRY AS A REGULAR MEMBER TO THE HAMTRAMCK ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. Mr. Cherry is currently an alternate member to the board. This is a council appointment for a term ending 1-1-13. Placed on the agenda by Councilmember Gordon.
5. RESOLUTION APPOINTING STEVE SHAYA TO THE HAMTRAMCK ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. This is a council appointment for a term ending 1-1-13. Placed on the agenda by Councilmember Gordon.
6. RESOLUTION REAPPOINTING ANAM MIAH TO THE HAMTRAMCK ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. This is a council appointment for a term ending 1-1-13. Placed on the agenda by Councilmembers Hassan and Miah.
7. RESOLUTION APPOINTING NASR S. HUSSAIN TO THE HAMTRAMCK ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. This is a council appointment for a term ending 1-1-13. Placed on the agenda by Councilmember Miah.
8. RESOLUTION APPOINTING MOHAMMED A. RAHAMAN TO THE HAMTRAMCK ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. This is a council appointment for a term ending 1-1-13. Placed on the agenda by Councilmember Hassan.
9. RESOLUTION APPOINTING ANDY BISCOGLIA AS A REGULAR MEMBER TO THE HAMTRAMCK ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. Mr. Biscoglia is currently an alternate member to the board. This is a council appointment for a term ending 1-1-13. Placed on the agenda by Councilmember Gordon.
10. RESOLUTION APPOINTING BRENT MAXWELL TO THE HAMTRAMCK ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. This is a council appointment for a term ending 1-1-13. Placed on the agenda by Councilmember Stackpoole.
11. DISCUSSION regarding check #55211 for $13,260.00 to Acts 29 on 1/21/10 with consideration for further investigation. Placed on the agenda by Councilmember Gordon.
SECTION V: OTHER ITEMS
1. City Manager’s Report
2. Non-agenda items and other business
3. Public comments
ADJOURNMENT
NOTE: Anyone planning to attend the meeting who has need of special assistance under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) is asked to contact the city clerk’s office at (313) 876-7700, 48 hours before the meeting. Staff will be pleased to make the necessary arrangements.
59 comments
Comment from: allam/Guest/Concerned [Visitor]
Why are they terminating independent contract. I thought they gave them another chance, last snow fall of less than 1" would not warrant a plowing.
02/05/10 @ 12:10
Heard they salted and missed streets, like Lumpkin North of Caniff, for the 4th time. They never should have been awarded the contract in the first place because they didn't meet the bid requirements on company longevity, and they didn't even bid on salting.
02/05/10 @ 12:45
Comment from: Roger [Visitor]
there seem to be quite a number of council approved positions in committees and groups, i wonder where i would fit in best? it seems that all you need is a desire to join and some character references.
what does the zoning committee do? listen to people ask permission to build say a store where a house is?
what does the zoning committee do? listen to people ask permission to build say a store where a house is?
02/05/10 @ 14:14
Comment from: Guest [Visitor]
what's the wisdom behind plowing less than 2 inches of snow. most cities do it when the sonw reaches 2" why would our city do it for less than that and get charged more than $10,000 for it.
www.fairfaxcounty.gov/providence/.../NoVa-Snow-Brochure.pdf
www.naperville.il.us/dynamic_content.aspx?id=294
www.makersamerica.com/snow-removal.htm
and they do it when the snow stops.
but because Platinum Landscaping is a heavy donor to our politicians, they will get to charge the city 200,000 for removing the snow this year
www.fairfaxcounty.gov/providence/.../NoVa-Snow-Brochure.pdf
www.naperville.il.us/dynamic_content.aspx?id=294
www.makersamerica.com/snow-removal.htm
and they do it when the snow stops.
but because Platinum Landscaping is a heavy donor to our politicians, they will get to charge the city 200,000 for removing the snow this year
02/05/10 @ 14:42
Comment from: allam/Guest/Concerned [Visitor]
We have to learn how to co-exit with the snow and stop wasting money on removing it. It will go away eventually.
02/06/10 @ 11:57
6-10 inches of snow projected for Tuesday night!
***Notice***
The Hamtramck City Council will hold a Special Meeting on Monday, February 8, 2010, at 6:30 PM. The meeting will be held in the City Council Chambers on the 2nd Floor of City Hall, 3401 Evaline, Hamtramck, Michigan.
Agenda:
PRELIMINARY MATTERS
1. Call to order
2. Roll call
3. Pledge of allegiance to the flag
4. Public Comments
SPECIAL BUSINESS
1. RESOLUTION TERMINATING THE CONTRACT WITH INDEPENDENT SERVICES GROUP FOR SNOW REMOVAL AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT WITH THE 2ND LOWEST QUALIFIED BIDDER. Placed on the agenda by City Manager Cooper.
ADJOURNMENT
NOTE: Anyone planning to attend the meeting who has need of special assistance under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) is asked to contact the city clerk’s office at (313) 876-7700.
02/08/10 @ 12:27
Comment from: Roger [Visitor]
"We have to learn how to co-exit with the snow and stop wasting money on removing it. It will go away eventually."
Roflcopter allam! very zen of you ;)
Mind its easy to take such a view unless you have to drive to work 5 days a week in it! heh
Roflcopter allam! very zen of you ;)
Mind its easy to take such a view unless you have to drive to work 5 days a week in it! heh
02/08/10 @ 14:11
Comment from: slip [Visitor]
"We have to learn how to co-exit with the snow and stop wasting money on removing it. It will go away eventually."
I wonder if allam even knows what a snow shovel is or what it's for?
I wonder if allam even knows what a snow shovel is or what it's for?
02/08/10 @ 17:05
Comment from: guest [Visitor]
What is the connection between Platinum Landscaping and Council member Cathy Gordon? Why is she so determined to pull the snow contract for the contract she approved? Does that make any sense? And isn't it a conflict of interest that Cathy Gordon is seen all over town with the owners of Platinum Landscaping? Maybe Channel 7 investigator Steve Wilson should be called.
02/09/10 @ 21:42
Comment from: allam/Guest/Concerned [Visitor]
This city never ceases to amaze me.
No signs of snow removing trucks
(except wayne county) and we get billed
thousands of dollars.
No signs of snow removing trucks
(except wayne county) and we get billed
thousands of dollars.
02/10/10 @ 07:03
Comment from: guest [Visitor]
I was up at 6 this morning went out and saw 5 trucks salting and plowing. Most of the major streets were already melted down to the pavement. Mackay, Fleming, Lumpkin, Gallagher, Casmere, Commor, Holbrook. The most outrageous thing the city did is get rid of the DPW. They had 8 trucks, 4 less than a year old. We never had a problem with snow removal, they even plowed sidewalks with a small tractor and a brush.
02/10/10 @ 11:01
Comment from: allam/Guest/Concerned [Visitor]
so who is doing the plowing: Platinum or Independent?
02/10/10 @ 12:44
I don't think "the city" got rid of the DPW. The appointed emergency financial manager Schimmel did.
02/10/10 @ 13:13
Comment from: allam/Guest/Concerned [Visitor]
wouldn't it make more sense to buy new equipment and let the DPW do the job,
instead of spending around 200,000 each year.
instead of spending around 200,000 each year.
02/10/10 @ 13:33
Not necessarily. First of all, where would the huge capital outlay come from?
Purchasing, maintaining, and insuring trucks is expensive. So are additional employees and benefits.
Having the DPW do the work doesn't seem feasible at this point.
Purchasing, maintaining, and insuring trucks is expensive. So are additional employees and benefits.
Having the DPW do the work doesn't seem feasible at this point.
02/10/10 @ 15:20
Comment from: allam [Visitor]
Take into consideration that these equipment can also be used for tree removal, debris cleanup and various other things (~600 + ~200) that's around $800,000.
02/10/10 @ 20:12
Comment from: guest [Visitor]
Yes the city actually got rid of the DPW. The emergency manager made the suggestion. The council had to vote to get rid of the DPW. Than it was suggested by the emergency manager to keep the equipment for 1 year, to make sure this was going to work. But Mayor Gzych sold the equipment within 3 weeks. At this time it is not feasible to have a DPW again, because of the start up costs. But after this was all done, a study was done and shown on paper that the city actually saved 1.7 million a year by having a DPW. Yes the insurance and maintenance of everything is expensive, but when you hire independent contractors to do city work, they can charge as much as they want for overtime to complete the work, such as garbage, snow removal, street repair, its a clause in all contracts. This is where over runs become a problem. When the city manages the DPW they can control it. Indepenant is doing the plowing now. They have 10 days before they can be removed. Then they will probably sue the city, I'm guessing for over a million dollars and win.
02/11/10 @ 06:37
Comment from: Tim [Member] 
guest: Might I suggest a little reading: http://www.mackinac.org/2103
02/11/10 @ 09:58
Comment from: guest [Visitor]
It works for a couple years. That article was from the early 90's. Ecorse has actually filed for bankruptcy 2 years again. Ecorse is a ghost town. 85 percent of it's businesses are shuttered now. All of the public services, garbage, snow removal, etc. are done by the county now, and the county collects all the tax money for payment. All of the studies done, all over the country prove it does not work in the long term. It works for the first 2 years, because there is a quick surplus of cash. If it works so well, why is Hamtramck in such a condition it is in? Why do we have more vacant stores now than any other time in our city? Why is the city so broke? Why is the city so dirty? I was born and raised in his city, it's still my home, I have never seen it in this condition.
02/11/10 @ 10:08
Comment from: Tim [Member]
Then they will probably sue the city, I'm guessing for over a million dollars and win.
Um, no. They wouldn't have a leg to stand on. They did not fulfill their end of the contract, therefore, the contract was broken by them.
So tired of people espousing cronyism...
Um, no. They wouldn't have a leg to stand on. They did not fulfill their end of the contract, therefore, the contract was broken by them.
So tired of people espousing cronyism...
02/11/10 @ 10:08
Comment from: Tim [Member]
Hamtramck is not an island onto itself. Its problems are a reflection of the country's current problems.
02/11/10 @ 10:11
Comment from: guest [Visitor]
There is no evidence that they did not fulfill there contract. No pictures, no formal complaints from anyone, 2 different stories from 2 different city officials. City contracts are very , very specific, have you ever read one? The only possible way they can discharge the contract is if the company did not show up for a period of 90 days. Thats it. They showed up everytime, missed a couple streets, thats it. You can't void a contract over this. P.S. These problems in Hamtramck started over 5 years ago, long before the country and Michigan were having any problems.
02/11/10 @ 10:27
Comment from: Tim [Member]
P.S. These problems in Hamtramck started over 5 years ago, long before the country and Michigan were having any problems.
Your time line doesn't reflect my understanding of the economic downturn of MI.
Privatization can work if contracts are written correctly: http://www.caller.com/news/2010/jan/30/privatization-the-outsourcing-of-some-city-run/?partner=RSS
Your time line doesn't reflect my understanding of the economic downturn of MI.
Privatization can work if contracts are written correctly: http://www.caller.com/news/2010/jan/30/privatization-the-outsourcing-of-some-city-run/?partner=RSS
02/11/10 @ 10:33
I'm not convinced privatization is/was the answer. There's no silver bullet to making sure the job's done properly, whatever it is.
Guest, thanks for adding details of the EFM/Council happenings during that period, that was before my time here.
By saying we don't have the $800k for a capital outlay, I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad idea. Just that it's not feasible at this moment.
If it could be shown, on paper, that we'd realize some cost benefit and not fall into some crazy union overtime racket, I'd likely support our DPW doing the work. Though in it's current state, I don't have a ton of faith in the efficiency of our DPW.
Guest, thanks for adding details of the EFM/Council happenings during that period, that was before my time here.
By saying we don't have the $800k for a capital outlay, I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad idea. Just that it's not feasible at this moment.
If it could be shown, on paper, that we'd realize some cost benefit and not fall into some crazy union overtime racket, I'd likely support our DPW doing the work. Though in it's current state, I don't have a ton of faith in the efficiency of our DPW.
02/11/10 @ 11:20
Comment from: guest [Visitor]
Your correct Steven in our current state it wouldn't work, but at that time it worked fine. We really do not have a DPW at this time. 4 men thats it. Impossible to run a city. And actually there was very little overtime. The men knew the city was in a financial crunch and usually how it worked, if certain men had to work a Saturday, they would just get Monday off. Or if they worked till 6 at night, they came in a little later. It all came out even with very little overtime. And it worked fine. At the end of the year , overtime wasn't even 5% of the budget problem.
02/11/10 @ 11:27
Tim: The timeline in Hamtramck doesn't match the downturn in the state. While the rest of the state is loosing population, we are gaining. 10 years ago, the city council, EFM, and mayor collectively trashed our bond rating, and at the sale "guest" mentioned, brand new garbage trucks, and everything else the DPW owned, were auctioned for pennies on the dollar. We have been slowly digging ourselves out of the hole ever since. The council hasn't seemed to notice how serious the situation is, and keeps funneling dollars into pet projects. (Thank goodness our bond rating is toast because we could be paying for their lack of fiscal responsibility for years to come.)
02/11/10 @ 12:00
guest: There are plenty of people on the North end who saw the contractor salting all over Detroit. Marty Ladd's claim that they only missed one street is just plain wrong. Not saying that I agree with the termination - I'm in the mood to save money so that we can begin replacing our disintegrated roads.
Marty Ladd and Bill Cooper don't have control of anything. When they say something was "authorized" by Marty Ladd, they mean that his signature was stamped on the invoice, no work orders. I looked at detailed invoices from a dozen contractors last summer, and Platinum Landscaping was the only company that had work orders and photos of their work attached to every bill.
Marty Ladd and Bill Cooper don't have control of anything. When they say something was "authorized" by Marty Ladd, they mean that his signature was stamped on the invoice, no work orders. I looked at detailed invoices from a dozen contractors last summer, and Platinum Landscaping was the only company that had work orders and photos of their work attached to every bill.
02/11/10 @ 12:01
Comment from: guest [Visitor]
From what I understand, work orders are not required for normal maintence of a city. I've been to council meetings in other cities, Royal Oak, Ferndale just to name a couple, and not every invoice has a work order. Also I have never heard of anyone taking pictures of the work they have completed. For what reason? If they are requested, sure.
I agree there needs to be more control.
I agree there needs to be more control.
02/11/10 @ 12:11
Do these other cities run their DPWs primarily with contractors? How do they prevent fraudulent invoicing and unnecessary work by contractors? I wouldn't expect Rizzo to have work orders for garbage, but shouldn't CPI have work orders for every repair?
In Platinum's case, they document their work thoroughly because people like Alan Shulgon and allam take issue with their bills without considering that the DPW ordered all the work performed, and even knew what it would cost in advance.
(Thanks for your insights, BTW.)
In Platinum's case, they document their work thoroughly because people like Alan Shulgon and allam take issue with their bills without considering that the DPW ordered all the work performed, and even knew what it would cost in advance.
(Thanks for your insights, BTW.)
02/11/10 @ 12:53
Comment from: guest [Visitor]
Well the fraudulent invoices and unnecessary work have to be closely monitored by the DPW Super. Thats his job, he's responsible for it. And I completely understand how it can get out of control.
As far as Platinum, I don't want to bad talk anyone or bash anyone but there have been problems with them before.
I don't think they should be doing any work for the city. And I also believe they should be investigated of having unethical ties with certain city council members. Thats why I think Channel 7 should be called to investigate.
As far as Platinum, I don't want to bad talk anyone or bash anyone but there have been problems with them before.
I don't think they should be doing any work for the city. And I also believe they should be investigated of having unethical ties with certain city council members. Thats why I think Channel 7 should be called to investigate.
02/11/10 @ 13:45
Comment from: allam/Guest/Concerned [Visitor]
First of all, Platinum should not be getting any contracts with the city. this corporation has been dissolved since 2007: http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/dt_corp.asp?id_nbr=23544D&name_entity=PLATINUM%20LANDSCAPE%20INC.
Second, any sane person will realize that steve shaya (Former DPW) is the acutal person behind Platinum, even though he claims otherwise.
Third: Mr. Shaya has a very shadowy character as evident..from the voter's guide ".... Convicted of a felony in a civil case after a partner in a private construction deal misused his license; successfully petitioned to have the
conviction expunged. Removed from his job as DPW Superintendent due to the conviction and an accusation by former police officer Dennis Whittie that city employees worked on his rental property during business hours..."
why would such a person has a business to do with the city, even as an employee.
Is this the type of people we want the city contracts going to?
Second, any sane person will realize that steve shaya (Former DPW) is the acutal person behind Platinum, even though he claims otherwise.
Third: Mr. Shaya has a very shadowy character as evident..from the voter's guide ".... Convicted of a felony in a civil case after a partner in a private construction deal misused his license; successfully petitioned to have the
conviction expunged. Removed from his job as DPW Superintendent due to the conviction and an accusation by former police officer Dennis Whittie that city employees worked on his rental property during business hours..."
why would such a person has a business to do with the city, even as an employee.
Is this the type of people we want the city contracts going to?
02/11/10 @ 14:07
Comment from: Tim [Member]
Hillary said:While the rest of the state is loosing population, we are gaining.
This doesn't surprise me a bit. It is easy comprehend that our community, that offers inexpensive home ownership, would experience a population increase in an economic downturn period.
This doesn't surprise me a bit. It is easy comprehend that our community, that offers inexpensive home ownership, would experience a population increase in an economic downturn period.
02/11/10 @ 17:18
Comment from: Hamtramck Anonymous [Visitor]
Although we here in Michigan did not experience many major snowfall until this past week, we did have some. Not once did I see an Independent truck!
You might say...."Oh, well you just weren't around to see them" Regardless, the streets were appalling. I would have had better luck driving at the Joe.
Last year, I never experienced that! And of course they were out in full force this time, they're trying to make themselves look good after a half of winter of blunder. (Mind you, only after they had been terminated!)
I don't know about the rest of you, but it sounds to me like guest is a worker or something for Independent.
Personally, I really don't care who does the job, as long as the city got the best deal and (most importantly) the job is being done in a timely and correct fashion. Independent failed at even doing the job! So, why not bring in the old, reliable guys. I would love DPW back, they did all the jobs better than anyone! But that's not gonna happen, at least anytime soon. We gotta make the best of what we got.
You might say...."Oh, well you just weren't around to see them" Regardless, the streets were appalling. I would have had better luck driving at the Joe.
Last year, I never experienced that! And of course they were out in full force this time, they're trying to make themselves look good after a half of winter of blunder. (Mind you, only after they had been terminated!)
I don't know about the rest of you, but it sounds to me like guest is a worker or something for Independent.
Personally, I really don't care who does the job, as long as the city got the best deal and (most importantly) the job is being done in a timely and correct fashion. Independent failed at even doing the job! So, why not bring in the old, reliable guys. I would love DPW back, they did all the jobs better than anyone! But that's not gonna happen, at least anytime soon. We gotta make the best of what we got.
02/13/10 @ 22:42
Comment from: guest [Visitor]
LOL, good morning all. This is amusing.
First off let me say, I am not asociated with Independant at all, in any way. I am not defending anyone. All I can say is when I was out, very early in the morning, streets were all clear.
And I could care less on who does the job also, I'm just saying if we fire them now, the city will be sued, as has been done numerous times before.
You just can't get rid of them, contracts are very specific.
And the other point is I am againest the city doing any business with Platinum, for many reasons. The city has been screwed numerous times by them also. How much does it take for the council to see this? This all sits in there lap, they are responsible to the taxpayers for who they spend city money on.
First off let me say, I am not asociated with Independant at all, in any way. I am not defending anyone. All I can say is when I was out, very early in the morning, streets were all clear.
And I could care less on who does the job also, I'm just saying if we fire them now, the city will be sued, as has been done numerous times before.
You just can't get rid of them, contracts are very specific.
And the other point is I am againest the city doing any business with Platinum, for many reasons. The city has been screwed numerous times by them also. How much does it take for the council to see this? This all sits in there lap, they are responsible to the taxpayers for who they spend city money on.
02/14/10 @ 11:15
Comment from: Hamtramck Citizen [Visitor]
i am outraged that the city council who represents the taxpayers are willing to pay almost double to a company isn't registered to do business in the state of Michigan! I would like to know which insurance company would insure Platinum when they weren't even incorporated or registered to do business in the state of Michigan. The city council needs to remember that they are dealing with a private bid situation, this is taxpaying dollars in their hands here. The company who has been doing the work this year has done a great job compared to recent years. Last week, myself and all of my neighbors were talking about good it looked in a short time. It is clear that the famous Steve Shaya has members of city council in his pocket. I wonder what the US government would think of that
02/14/10 @ 15:02
Comment from: Steve S. [Visitor]
Guest....."This city has been screwed numerous times by them"...can you support that statement????
Hamtramck Citizen...."The famous Steve Shaya has members of city council in his pocket"......I have many friends, some are on council and some that aren't. Whats your point and where is your proof????
Guest, Allam, & Hamtramck Citizen: I hope the three of you have the same concern / attitude when it comes to a $13,000.00 check issued to Acts-29!
Hamtramck Citizen...."The famous Steve Shaya has members of city council in his pocket"......I have many friends, some are on council and some that aren't. Whats your point and where is your proof????
Guest, Allam, & Hamtramck Citizen: I hope the three of you have the same concern / attitude when it comes to a $13,000.00 check issued to Acts-29!
02/14/10 @ 17:25
Comment from: guest [Visitor]
Yes Mr. Steve S. Platinum has billed the city for numerous overtime and unexplained invoices over the last 4 years. If you would like proof, file a Freedom Of Information act and get copies of invoices like I did and you will see.
Also, I believe Mr. Shaya was running for city council this past year and at the same time negotiating a contract with the city for snowplowing services. Isn't this a conflict of interest? unethical? And possibly illegal under State Of Michigan campaign laws. Also you say that Mr. Shaya has numerous friends, including city council members. Thats fine, but you can't use them to influence decisions. This is the exact same thing happening in Detroit with Sam Riddle, and Mr. Kilpatrick. I think Mr. Shaya needs to tread lightly and not be so arrogant. Maybe when Channel 7 investigators and Steve Wilson get involved he will change his attitude a little.
Also, I believe Mr. Shaya was running for city council this past year and at the same time negotiating a contract with the city for snowplowing services. Isn't this a conflict of interest? unethical? And possibly illegal under State Of Michigan campaign laws. Also you say that Mr. Shaya has numerous friends, including city council members. Thats fine, but you can't use them to influence decisions. This is the exact same thing happening in Detroit with Sam Riddle, and Mr. Kilpatrick. I think Mr. Shaya needs to tread lightly and not be so arrogant. Maybe when Channel 7 investigators and Steve Wilson get involved he will change his attitude a little.
02/14/10 @ 18:31
Comment from: allam/Guest/Concerned [Visitor]
Yes, same thing goes for Act 29.
they should thoroughly investigated.
Furthermore, Acts 29 Fiasco proves that Martin Ladd has to be fired, He has no clue, or pretending to have no clue, to what's happening in his dept.
they should thoroughly investigated.
Furthermore, Acts 29 Fiasco proves that Martin Ladd has to be fired, He has no clue, or pretending to have no clue, to what's happening in his dept.
02/14/10 @ 18:42
Comment from: Steve S. [Visitor]
Mr. Guest who ever you are? Your welcome to post any of unexplained invoices or even examples;futhermore, I have never negotiated anything with the city with regards to contracts! I am neither the owner or part owner or stockholder in Platinum Landscaping Co. just simply an EMPLOYEE and I highly doubt you can prove otherwise!
Also, I don't neeed to use my friends for anything...Platinum's work standards speaks for itself as we have shown in the past. Now talking about arrogance, why don't you sign your name ....UNLESS you have something to HIDE? Show me any docs to back up your statements?? If you can't prove any then I don't give a damn about what you think or say!!!!!
Also, I don't neeed to use my friends for anything...Platinum's work standards speaks for itself as we have shown in the past. Now talking about arrogance, why don't you sign your name ....UNLESS you have something to HIDE? Show me any docs to back up your statements?? If you can't prove any then I don't give a damn about what you think or say!!!!!
02/14/10 @ 19:03
Comment from: allam/Guest/Concerned [Visitor]
that's pretty passionate for just an employee!!
02/14/10 @ 19:16
Passionate?! "Guest" just made allegations that are obviously false and Steve is "passionate" for sticking up for himself?
I think "guest" and "Concerned" are a tag team character assassination crew, too gutless to use their names.
Anonymous comments remind me of klansmen giving speeches in hoods. They'll say anything and take no responsibility for their words.
I think "guest" and "Concerned" are a tag team character assassination crew, too gutless to use their names.
Anonymous comments remind me of klansmen giving speeches in hoods. They'll say anything and take no responsibility for their words.
02/15/10 @ 09:53
Let me correct that, since "allam", "Guest", and "Concerned" are posting from the same Comcast IP address, it's very likely one person trying to fool us into thinking otherwise.
This is the standard M.O. for anonymous trolls. Now we'll probably get the old "roommate" line.
This is the standard M.O. for anonymous trolls. Now we'll probably get the old "roommate" line.
02/15/10 @ 10:09
Comment from: Tim [Member]
QFT: Anonymous comments remind me of klansmen giving speeches in hoods. They'll say anything and take no responsibility for their words.
An apt analogy, Steven.
I wonder if he has the cajones to remove his hood... I'll bet "no" is the answer to that.
An apt analogy, Steven.
I wonder if he has the cajones to remove his hood... I'll bet "no" is the answer to that.
02/15/10 @ 12:37
Comment from: Hamtramck Citizen [Visitor]
The Famous Steve Shaya? Aren't you a convicted felon Steve? If the city council members are stupid to associate with you; that just proves they are just as shady as you. When I think of you and the city council members you have in your pocket (and you know who you are), I think of an unflushed toilet.
02/15/10 @ 17:06
The anonymous commenter going by "Hamtramck Citizen" is posting from an IP address belonging to ABC Paving Company of Trenton.
Among other activities, they appear to perform municipal snow removal work.
Among other activities, they appear to perform municipal snow removal work.
02/15/10 @ 19:14
Comment from: Donna [Visitor]
Isn't it amazing how quick someone is to place blame and slander someone. I know that Mr Shaya is an employee of Platium and doen't make any of the business decisions yet someone can make unarranted statements. Also about having politicans in his pockets. Someone should take a good look AT ALL the politicans sitting on the city council before they make statements like that. In other words people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Only in Hamtramck is it a crime to be friends with the wrong side of the slate.
02/15/10 @ 19:46
Comment from: Steve S. [Visitor]
Hey Hamtramck citizen...Let me educate you and expose your ignorance?
Michigan State Law prohabits convicted felons from putting their names on the ballot. So much for your education and knowledge base...maybe you ought to do your homework first before you open your trap.
Bye the way, if your so proud behind what you say...WHY DO YOU "HIDE"
let me leave you with this thought, TAKE OFF YOUR HAT AND SHOW YOUR REAL FACE!
Michigan State Law prohabits convicted felons from putting their names on the ballot. So much for your education and knowledge base...maybe you ought to do your homework first before you open your trap.
Bye the way, if your so proud behind what you say...WHY DO YOU "HIDE"
let me leave you with this thought, TAKE OFF YOUR HAT AND SHOW YOUR REAL FACE!
02/15/10 @ 20:00
Comment from: Donna [Visitor]
Steve, you and I both know that these types of people will never post out in the open. Their insinuations and undercoverness is the only way they know how to act. Remember there is people out there that know the real truth
02/15/10 @ 20:15
Comment from: khan [Visitor]
Thanks steve, allam is not real alam,because he don't know how to spell his name. Is not 'allam' is alam.Next election we will see him. Thanks.
02/15/10 @ 20:51
Comment from: Steve S. [Visitor]
Thank you Ms. Donna & Khan....for your kind words!
02/15/10 @ 22:36
Comment from: Roger [Visitor]
rest assured i will "never" post as anonymous or guest as i am too self righteous to hide like that.
02/15/10 @ 23:09
Comment from: Steve S. [Visitor]
Hey guest, hamtramck citizen, or allam...are you back hiding again or maybe the cat got your tongue?
02/19/10 @ 23:39
It's better not to provoke the trolls.
02/20/10 @ 02:28
Comment from: Guest [Visitor]
Steve S.
Can you please answer these questions?
1.How come the annual returns for Platinum found here:
http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/results.asp?ID=23544D&page_name=corp
all have different signatures for "Omar Nakash".
2.Do you own any shares in Platinum?
3. How come Platinum articles of Incorporations are NOT SIGNED?
4.Was it a coincidence that Platinum landscape was established right after you were fired s DPW director?
5-All the addresses in the papers are for P.O boxes, the only physical address you have listed is 8422 Joseph Campau(where you keep the trucks), is this business licensed by do you pay you fair share of the city taxes?
Can you please answer these questions?
1.How come the annual returns for Platinum found here:
http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/results.asp?ID=23544D&page_name=corp
all have different signatures for "Omar Nakash".
2.Do you own any shares in Platinum?
3. How come Platinum articles of Incorporations are NOT SIGNED?
4.Was it a coincidence that Platinum landscape was established right after you were fired s DPW director?
5-All the addresses in the papers are for P.O boxes, the only physical address you have listed is 8422 Joseph Campau(where you keep the trucks), is this business licensed by do you pay you fair share of the city taxes?
02/21/10 @ 18:39
Comment from: Roger [Visitor]
Guest:
you're being a douche.
assuming Steve lowered himself to a level to answer those questions, what would that prove? even if he gave good answers it seems you have already judged him. and "if" there was foul play who in their right mind would give you the answer you are searching for? you are just instigating for no reason to compensate your ego for some personal inadequacy.
you're being a douche.
assuming Steve lowered himself to a level to answer those questions, what would that prove? even if he gave good answers it seems you have already judged him. and "if" there was foul play who in their right mind would give you the answer you are searching for? you are just instigating for no reason to compensate your ego for some personal inadequacy.
02/21/10 @ 21:20
I think those are valid questions.
02/21/10 @ 21:40
Comment from: Steve S. [Visitor]
Famous guest..to .answer your questions? As I said it before and now...I don't hane any ownership or sharesin platinum, other than an employee. As far as the other questions, you'll have to address them to omar...I really don't know! With respect to taxes...yes I do pay my taxes and as you know famous guest...I do reside in this city! Can I say that about you???????
02/22/10 @ 11:54
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